1 00:00:05,51 --> 00:00:11,75 OK seven thirty recall the meeting to order. Before we go to. 2 00:00:13,85 --> 00:00:18,71 Meet Lynn L.L.C. We do have a small hearing. There were go to first take 3 00:00:18,72 --> 00:00:25,11 a few moments and this is here I go Park the site plan modification. Prince Peter 4 00:00:25,12 --> 00:00:26,24 Arnell park to request 5 00:00:26,25 --> 00:00:30,16 a modification the site plan approval granted on September twenty fourth two 6 00:00:30,17 --> 00:00:34,49 thousand and sixteen the modification includes the installation of the wood green 7 00:00:34,79 --> 00:00:38,82 shade structure adjacent to the tennis courts to stage the sheet structure of the 8 00:00:38,83 --> 00:00:42,93 ten by ten with an eight foot head clearance no walls proposed structure would be 9 00:00:42,94 --> 00:00:47,95 supported by six six by six pressure treated corner post to country footing. 10 00:00:50,13 --> 00:00:57,01 With that will go to the applicant just tell us quickly and. You know 11 00:00:57,02 --> 00:00:58,32 what I'd like to go in 12 00:00:58,33 --> 00:01:03,89 a tank full sanitation is the the the reason we reason we want this. 13 00:01:05,46 --> 00:01:12,00 Case is. Freefall but we have the high school fabrication folks are. 14 00:01:13,73 --> 00:01:20,62 Off to do the work for us we supply the. French people right back with why the 15 00:01:21,01 --> 00:01:27,86 supply. Flies and we have data doing. A lot of parts 16 00:01:27,87 --> 00:01:33,89 right is what we do in the supervision of the fabrication kits from the high school 17 00:01:33,90 --> 00:01:40,79 as well as talking real an. Instructor and. They have they 18 00:01:40,80 --> 00:01:41,06 have 19 00:01:41,91 --> 00:01:48,60 a window of opportunity time wise to get it done now so would like to. See it's 20 00:01:48,61 --> 00:01:53,96 a good approach to get it done and it's going to get us to this White House right 21 00:01:53,97 --> 00:01:58,38 next to the tennis courts but it's also going to serve for all of the other fitness 22 00:01:58,65 --> 00:02:04,60 activities and the fact is we have no structure what so. And 23 00:02:05,53 --> 00:02:10,72 most of the hard to get things up about seventy six I mean excuse me excuse me one 24 00:02:10,73 --> 00:02:17,01 conversation was about side. Heights which is with the tennis courts the basketball 25 00:02:17,02 --> 00:02:22,81 court the fitness center of the fitness area is the. Street hockey area. 26 00:02:24,37 --> 00:02:28,63 It covers about ten acres so the seventeen The topic is the city of the property 27 00:02:28,68 --> 00:02:31,35 and we have no shade at all so I mean it's really it's 28 00:02:31,36 --> 00:02:36,96 a necessary thing and if you can see it think in the people's will quote It's. The 29 00:02:37,00 --> 00:02:42,73 dermatology institute the astute term apology the one out of five. Americans 30 00:02:42,92 --> 00:02:49,88 American life. Will contract skin cancer but want to get ahead of this thing and 31 00:02:49,89 --> 00:02:54,39 that's the reason for. The efficacious patient in 32 00:02:54,43 --> 00:02:58,45 a leader not known to the board has to done so and if I myself cannot sorry but 33 00:02:59,25 --> 00:03:03,53 chairman of the present. And you're just here asking the board to determine 34 00:03:03,54 --> 00:03:10,51 a decision minor modification correct. Carry on me. No there's nothing 35 00:03:10,52 --> 00:03:16,79 really change in this I don't really see any major about it that I was OK. On the 36 00:03:16,80 --> 00:03:19,19 commotion and we proved this is 37 00:03:19,20 --> 00:03:24,91 a minor modification to hear Second for those in favor of it all said thank you 38 00:03:24,92 --> 00:03:28,23 very much thank you. For you. 39 00:03:31,71 --> 00:03:37,47 OK. This we're here for the continued Harry. 40 00:03:40,71 --> 00:03:42,16 Maitland Hello C. 41 00:03:42,23 --> 00:03:42,55 And as 42 00:03:42,56 --> 00:03:47,29 a we talked about the last time tonight just going to be the applicant presenting 43 00:03:47,86 --> 00:03:54,58 their petition we do have two other nights reserved for the series the next 44 00:03:54,65 --> 00:03:58,62 hearing will be peer review in the their hearing will be when we hear from the 45 00:03:58,63 --> 00:04:04,10 general public so we'll ask that you. Reserve your questions and then please read 46 00:04:04,11 --> 00:04:08,38 them. Down. But will try to get this I know this is sometimes these can be 47 00:04:08,39 --> 00:04:12,94 emotional pointy beasts but when try to get this to this is quick it's meanest 48 00:04:13,55 --> 00:04:20,50 distantly as possible and. Asked that you don't interrupt anyone let me 49 00:04:20,51 --> 00:04:27,10 finish you don't interrupt anyone while they're speaking. OK So 50 00:04:27,35 --> 00:04:28,32 tonight's the app you had 51 00:04:28,33 --> 00:04:34,84 a question service last maybe you said tonight. Here you would usually hear 52 00:04:35,45 --> 00:04:42,18 from the residents No never said that that's the third hearing. So it was made very 53 00:04:42,19 --> 00:04:47,98 clear December thirteenth So OK it's that way but actually what's happening is you 54 00:04:48,44 --> 00:04:51,87 know what sir we're not getting the chance to say anything until you've already 55 00:04:51,88 --> 00:04:55,17 made up your money don't I say so we're going to the applicants you're interrupting 56 00:04:55,18 --> 00:04:59,03 the meeting we're going to go to the applicant and watch you present distribution 57 00:04:59,22 --> 00:05:05,46 present as to what you want to. Want to do. My name's there and very integrated 58 00:05:05,47 --> 00:05:12,14 something to be run from. The existing parts of the 59 00:05:12,15 --> 00:05:18,45 parcel. And before you Mr GRAEF we're going to speak up 60 00:05:19,30 --> 00:05:26,02 you've seen the notices from the other boards one being from. The 61 00:05:26,03 --> 00:05:26,62 P.W. 62 00:05:27,33 --> 00:05:33,10 It's good to be in from that's dated October sixth two thousand and sixteen and that 63 00:05:33,74 --> 00:05:39,47 the one Angus Jennings Town Council from two thousand and three. One from the Board 64 00:05:39,48 --> 00:05:44,84 of Health September twentieth two thousand and sixteen. And then one from the 65 00:05:44,85 --> 00:05:48,87 Planning Board October fourth two thousand and sixteen he was made aware of those. 66 00:05:50,00 --> 00:05:56,93 All right. You may wear those today OK all of them the ones that you 67 00:05:56,94 --> 00:06:02,82 would just present in your presentation let you go through but if you could try to 68 00:06:02,83 --> 00:06:08,30 address I mean I know you've got. Today some of the concerns would also. Access in 69 00:06:08,31 --> 00:06:13,08 Mr Crocker Cino talks about some agreements on the sites with the town and other 70 00:06:13,09 --> 00:06:18,38 entities those agreements because of thing one had restricted on certain uses I 71 00:06:18,39 --> 00:06:18,81 have had 72 00:06:18,82 --> 00:06:25,52 a chance to see you read all of this something to do and it. Will do it at the end 73 00:06:25,56 --> 00:06:31,50 once you go but it will be fun. But won't you go to your presentation then we'll 74 00:06:31,75 --> 00:06:38,19 deal with these letters. And you can speak up so everyone can hear it if I do it 75 00:06:38,20 --> 00:06:44,33 from here that way everyone. Existing out of five of the 76 00:06:45,19 --> 00:06:46,88 parcel shown here. 77 00:06:51,95 --> 00:06:52,24 Says 78 00:06:52,25 --> 00:06:57,50 a lot he twelve asked when I'm going to Syria to. You resides in the residential 79 00:06:57,51 --> 00:07:03,21 are one's own district and the water resource section district. But parcels 80 00:07:03,22 --> 00:07:08,90 currently used use is vacant and I'm used. For only 81 00:07:08,91 --> 00:07:15,57 a gravel pit. There are no weapons on this site. Such as the are trying to. 82 00:07:16,64 --> 00:07:22,38 Access this thing right away. So here it connects the parents to me. 83 00:07:26,25 --> 00:07:32,10 They have written the book The Mission is nineteen percent so that's nice for you 84 00:07:32,11 --> 00:07:32,63 to break 85 00:07:32,64 --> 00:07:39,57 a. Hundred twenty four parking spaces close. To where I want to three 86 00:07:39,58 --> 00:07:46,26 spaces for you to. Access for the post is the same axis I 87 00:07:46,27 --> 00:07:52,99 pointed out with the parents I have this. Site distance from that access is 88 00:07:53,00 --> 00:07:58,56 five hundred twenty five feet to the southwest you know what that are. And eight 89 00:07:58,57 --> 00:08:03,27 hundred twenty five North West would be. Worth way. 90 00:08:05,53 --> 00:08:07,42 Thank you why driveway posed with 91 00:08:07,43 --> 00:08:13,29 a chair around. At the end. That's just five trucks. 92 00:08:14,69 --> 00:08:15,26 Delivering me. 93 00:08:21,80 --> 00:08:23,51 Separating it from both of them was 94 00:08:23,82 --> 00:08:32,58 a lot elevation sixty six if they should be. Going 95 00:08:32,59 --> 00:08:38,56 to use the snow here it's designed to like the drainage from the entire right way 96 00:08:38,77 --> 00:08:45,40 the entire site. And that is the allegation fifty six. Long weeks seven border 97 00:08:45,71 --> 00:08:52,51 elevation one ten. North. East this 98 00:08:52,52 --> 00:08:57,77 site to be constructed the way for close. To one hundred twenty five thousand cubic 99 00:08:57,78 --> 00:09:03,12 yards of gravel me tell. Me. 100 00:09:05,20 --> 00:09:12,10 Where the utility. Yes. The site will be service with 101 00:09:12,26 --> 00:09:19,09 gas water all active. In the roadway. Here 102 00:09:19,13 --> 00:09:23,74 it will be off topic system. Which for 103 00:09:23,75 --> 00:09:29,61 a lot of wealth for the site is six out of six or ninety five per day is 104 00:09:29,62 --> 00:09:36,05 distributed into the system again six thousand six hundred ninety for 105 00:09:36,06 --> 00:09:42,61 a day to distribute it into the system. Breakdown is one yes it is 106 00:09:43,02 --> 00:09:45,55 huge and we will still have to see what the. 107 00:09:52,14 --> 00:09:59,06 Wire waivers. For exactly the waivers we seek ways to I use the one family 108 00:09:59,10 --> 00:10:04,59 to family in the goings on of our one family to the growing. It's 109 00:10:05,18 --> 00:10:11,88 a lot with zero for to. See to wave to allow one to which in family wealthy elite 110 00:10:11,89 --> 00:10:13,01 will instead be distracting 111 00:10:13,02 --> 00:10:19,91 a lot I think six or seven. Article that I. Get 112 00:10:19,100 --> 00:10:20,34 seeks 113 00:10:20,35 --> 00:10:25,53 a waiver from this article about one family to family and multiple family well why 114 00:10:25,62 --> 00:10:32,47 are you. Articles article ten Yeah it takes away from 115 00:10:32,48 --> 00:10:35,50 this article to try you just in to grab 116 00:10:35,51 --> 00:10:42,28 a little. Article eleven twelve fifteen twenty see we 117 00:10:42,68 --> 00:10:48,46 are going to allow the move will grab. Any questions and. 118 00:10:51,46 --> 00:10:54,45 OK still asking for an office you know. 119 00:10:58,51 --> 00:11:02,16 You hear what's the rationale about an office in 120 00:11:02,17 --> 00:11:08,88 a residential area which gives some of the some rash what can be seriously 121 00:11:08,89 --> 00:11:15,17 apartments so you want to. Thank you. 122 00:11:17,53 --> 00:11:21,42 He asked me what the rationale for our face in 123 00:11:21,43 --> 00:11:25,66 a residential setting would be and I said if I could set 124 00:11:25,67 --> 00:11:28,54 a good rant in 125 00:11:28,55 --> 00:11:33,85 a party you would go to the front office direct that I. Could be rented out to 126 00:11:34,56 --> 00:11:39,71 anyone else in the city the property manager correct he rented out to other 127 00:11:39,72 --> 00:11:46,46 entities. These the four hundred twenty five cubic 128 00:11:46,47 --> 00:11:53,44 feet. Your house yard start. Going to be mean this is basically to 129 00:11:53,45 --> 00:11:58,33 be able to bowl. No not 130 00:11:58,34 --> 00:12:05,12 a whole. The site. Name very few making below. Well I 131 00:12:05,22 --> 00:12:11,28 saw some sixty six down fifty six here and one can see if the ball is the site will 132 00:12:11,29 --> 00:12:16,75 be the bulk of the duration so it will mean. Which is typical in when you know so. 133 00:12:18,04 --> 00:12:22,22 It's actually booked it to be. Two feet higher than 134 00:12:22,26 --> 00:12:29,07 a moderate. Very feet so sixty four it will go up to well with 135 00:12:29,89 --> 00:12:34,88 D.P.W. Wanted their elevation sixty six so probably one that was part of 136 00:12:34,89 --> 00:12:41,77 a settlement agreement lawsuit settled. Then of course probably next 137 00:12:41,78 --> 00:12:42,83 what to build 138 00:12:42,84 --> 00:12:50,70 a. Five. Foot ten feet by. And 139 00:12:50,70 --> 00:12:57,14 . How is this he talked about you know French How is this his property 140 00:12:57,15 --> 00:13:03,01 accessible on site how is it accessed in public way over there right away. 141 00:13:06,06 --> 00:13:13,03 Very. Very good to have I mean here up twenty foot driveway. And back and 142 00:13:13,18 --> 00:13:19,24 say. Well. The Whose land is the right away over 143 00:13:20,12 --> 00:13:25,96 to the applicant. To. Keep it. 144 00:13:28,12 --> 00:13:33,26 And. That he selected to be the town as before. 145 00:13:35,31 --> 00:13:42,10 Now. Because I didn't realize in see this till. Today but 146 00:13:42,11 --> 00:13:46,38 Mr Prophet you know talked about certain agreements that were in your letter with 147 00:13:46,42 --> 00:13:52,90 Mr Sullivan from Mr Sullivan. Specifically. That there's 148 00:13:52,91 --> 00:13:55,62 a reference to a fifty one fifteen point one acres in 149 00:13:55,63 --> 00:14:01,33 a separate room with the town of marsh built. You know what it. Does not exist you 150 00:14:01,34 --> 00:14:05,52 know as far as I know they have I have an agreement with. If you go you go by the 151 00:14:05,53 --> 00:14:12,13 five guys. Can you submit that to the copy that to the board. 152 00:14:13,43 --> 00:14:20,43 Remember you were not co-counsel has. To maybe with the town doesn't 153 00:14:20,44 --> 00:14:21,17 mean we have 154 00:14:21,18 --> 00:14:27,66 a case of. That. And then he also talked about these are these two consider jumped 155 00:14:27,67 --> 00:14:28,14 on me about 156 00:14:28,15 --> 00:14:35,01 a restriction. On one parcel and the one six 157 00:14:35,02 --> 00:14:39,27 a surprise was recently subdivided into one acre parcel sold off for single family 158 00:14:39,28 --> 00:14:46,11 home builders referring to. The six the. Northern 159 00:14:46,12 --> 00:14:51,97 property was six point one acres I think. That was subdivided and 160 00:14:51,98 --> 00:14:58,97 a single house left was. Built on grocery so the balance of the land is 161 00:14:58,98 --> 00:15:00,29 what the D.P.W. 162 00:15:00,35 --> 00:15:06,24 That's the area circling right there yes. That's the one account slot there. 163 00:15:07,68 --> 00:15:14,09 OK. And that property to the west of that body. But. 164 00:15:15,76 --> 00:15:22,54 She have an option on that. Would you say you have an option I'm selling it to do 165 00:15:22,92 --> 00:15:28,55 your selling. Actually that got approved town meeting. You. 166 00:15:29,97 --> 00:15:35,94 Want to hear but as opposed to. Know there's some. 167 00:15:39,44 --> 00:15:41,99 Different things that pull D.P.W. S. 168 00:15:42,00 --> 00:15:47,96 That you and myself. But we're. Working on the roadway coming in together you have 169 00:15:47,97 --> 00:15:52,78 to. Get rid of some of the rage issues that are coming from the salt yet. 170 00:15:55,17 --> 00:15:59,52 This is also some habitat restoration it's being done on the five acres that D.P.W. 171 00:15:59,53 --> 00:16:01,33 And myself will be benefiting from. 172 00:16:06,70 --> 00:16:13,56 They. Have to be. You get copies of the various 173 00:16:14,52 --> 00:16:20,19 memos from the one doctor for what he did get and yeah we just found out that he 174 00:16:20,20 --> 00:16:27,12 did they were. Did you put them on the website run. By. 175 00:16:27,29 --> 00:16:31,97 You. Who put them up on the sea do you believe that the system they were originally 176 00:16:31,98 --> 00:16:33,45 in they read we have a we have this 177 00:16:33,46 --> 00:16:39,26 a six Yeah we had this you know it's all right. How much time do you need to look 178 00:16:39,27 --> 00:16:43,54 at these and respond to them and take this person but I mean we still have it very 179 00:16:43,55 --> 00:16:46,87 much still get. It where it gets 180 00:16:46,88 --> 00:16:50,19 a little bit later but I'm just as far as this because they raised reading go 181 00:16:50,20 --> 00:16:53,78 through each one and today I know I was I numbered 182 00:16:53,79 --> 00:16:58,42 a couple concerns I have but I think it's wasting our time if I'm asking questions 183 00:16:58,43 --> 00:17:05,19 and I think that she's going off the cuff right now so. How much how much time do 184 00:17:05,20 --> 00:17:12,04 you have to look at this to be able to respond Well maybe yes maybe. No 185 00:17:12,05 --> 00:17:16,98 no exactly yeah yeah. She could have 186 00:17:16,99 --> 00:17:23,86 a twenty nine people be able to she vanished. Definitely need to sit down 187 00:17:23,90 --> 00:17:28,90 town council and see what he wants to put together for. You guys for that. 188 00:17:30,38 --> 00:17:35,77 Specific ones that we address first if we can get mail or something there but we'll 189 00:17:35,78 --> 00:17:39,52 give you copies do you have copies I have copies but I just don't know which ones 190 00:17:40,22 --> 00:17:42,57 but every comment on every sinew numbered 191 00:17:42,58 --> 00:17:45,89 a couple. Well each have appealed to me in 192 00:17:45,90 --> 00:17:49,21 a different book may or may not be as different so I guess it's just 193 00:17:49,22 --> 00:17:53,69 a matter of getting familiar with them and be able to address any and I question. 194 00:17:57,78 --> 00:18:04,68 The way to get what you guys. Is that we could definitely see. I have led 195 00:18:04,69 --> 00:18:09,10 some with. But right pocket you know some of those agreements you know over 196 00:18:09,49 --> 00:18:15,13 restriction. And others go first and then no. 197 00:18:24,48 --> 00:18:29,17 One would bring it up it's landlocked just to press that point is try. 198 00:18:33,48 --> 00:18:40,26 To. See it start. The Planning Board has a. As 199 00:18:40,27 --> 00:18:47,21 a bunch of them but the waivers try to. Read I can. Just feel much like you 200 00:18:47,22 --> 00:18:52,71 to address because they're specifically. Talked about in the grave as you're asking 201 00:18:52,84 --> 00:18:59,51 for. And then the Board of Health for the nitrogen loading 202 00:18:59,68 --> 00:19:05,23 rig and it's in a slow. Looks like it's 203 00:19:05,24 --> 00:19:10,94 a pretty steep slope going to have. Been it talked about some erosion. 204 00:19:12,91 --> 00:19:15,75 In his and that's his that's the September twenty eighth two thousand and sixteen 205 00:19:16,68 --> 00:19:23,24 you know he actually got. Back on the soccer field to work with. The 206 00:19:23,43 --> 00:19:30,03 whole critical method of going slopes as we move you know that here because D.P.W. 207 00:19:30,04 --> 00:19:36,25 Also was very concerned slopes and erosion it's it's all same level there. 208 00:19:37,69 --> 00:19:43,37 Is. No. Site next door so right now. 209 00:19:44,88 --> 00:19:50,61 That's pitching east to west so I'm not getting any water now we can go on 210 00:19:50,62 --> 00:19:51,56 Walgreen's that's 211 00:19:51,57 --> 00:19:58,55 a wonderful slope is thirty acres of. That within six months to stabilize which 212 00:19:58,56 --> 00:19:58,68 is 213 00:19:58,69 --> 00:20:05,37 a. Great thing I'm just trying to grasp as to highly. Some of you know some of the 214 00:20:05,38 --> 00:20:10,36 things I think I also know stressor of the nitrogen issue so if you have planned 215 00:20:10,37 --> 00:20:16,55 a smidge of war with Syria sucker. You can get to the border to get here so no 216 00:20:16,68 --> 00:20:20,19 please don't assume that because you presented some oh yes no doubt you know that 217 00:20:20,46 --> 00:20:22,65 there are so many and this is 218 00:20:22,66 --> 00:20:28,81 a lot of us are actually. Going to come up again with a go that has 219 00:20:28,82 --> 00:20:32,39 a fifty thousand dollars foot done by would cover. 220 00:20:35,46 --> 00:20:39,25 Skulls of every kid if you can get that what's there and then afterwards you 221 00:20:39,49 --> 00:20:45,33 something else but actually it's got to do. With 222 00:20:46,31 --> 00:20:52,87 so adept you're going to. This proposal at the same depth you're going to stop the 223 00:20:52,88 --> 00:20:57,86 field search on this. One cites I. 224 00:21:00,23 --> 00:21:06,66 Will say. That. I think the other the other polls it was five hundred twenty five 225 00:21:06,67 --> 00:21:12,93 thousand. Were brought up a lot it had to go. With 226 00:21:12,94 --> 00:21:18,01 a deal to be. So it was brought about. Knocked Up and. 227 00:21:20,87 --> 00:21:27,39 With that. Comparison being able to get it 228 00:21:27,73 --> 00:21:28,77 back would again in 229 00:21:28,78 --> 00:21:35,85 a couple of very section carry street. And 230 00:21:35,97 --> 00:21:42,80 considering the very street just a small. Not very wide street it's not 231 00:21:42,81 --> 00:21:48,28 a ninety degree angle intersection. And it coming off right right. 232 00:21:50,28 --> 00:21:54,37 When the other is you should have traffic. A huge 233 00:21:54,38 --> 00:21:58,21 a major issue and I didn't see anything in your presentation as to what the traffic 234 00:21:58,31 --> 00:22:03,72 one was going to be and not only for the once it still gets built but typically 235 00:22:03,73 --> 00:22:10,47 would grow. To the trucks taking the girls. That will be going so well. 236 00:22:12,28 --> 00:22:13,96 I understand it still very street is 237 00:22:13,97 --> 00:22:18,87 a very small minded street so I think it would probably want to see something on 238 00:22:18,88 --> 00:22:23,73 that test track. If there was actually you know the state. 239 00:22:26,95 --> 00:22:33,66 Condition. Traffic study said. OK Again right so if you have anything that 240 00:22:33,67 --> 00:22:39,22 traffic in the submit to the crowd war. For soccer fields or when you are in from 241 00:22:39,23 --> 00:22:44,54 the Selectmen. You know Yemen's information is not is not 242 00:22:44,55 --> 00:22:51,30 a good idea no I guess so. The more you can give us the better we can have as far 243 00:22:51,31 --> 00:22:57,43 as. Questions are not. In the area the question that was raised by Iraq we just 244 00:22:57,48 --> 00:23:01,74 tend to agree with I know it's not a street. OK here's 245 00:23:01,75 --> 00:23:08,45 a driveway but you've got forty units but what is the number sixty 246 00:23:08,46 --> 00:23:14,56 one seventy one occupants. This is 247 00:23:14,57 --> 00:23:21,50 a sixty bedroom so yes I can remember next month and my package. He's 248 00:23:21,51 --> 00:23:28,50 the width of twenty feet really adequate for. Two way traffic that that volume 249 00:23:28,51 --> 00:23:33,74 of traffic. As opposed to twenty four feet and that's one of the questions they ask 250 00:23:33,74 --> 00:23:37,71 . Keep it up he did 251 00:23:37,72 --> 00:23:42,11 a planning what I think is going to. Reach him. He. 252 00:23:45,86 --> 00:23:51,42 Will do so so again few would I was searching for that document yet I think it was 253 00:23:51,43 --> 00:23:55,06 a plink with that said. A ROW It was 254 00:23:55,07 --> 00:24:00,53 a road would have to be twenty four feet. It's not a road it's a driveway but it's 255 00:24:00,54 --> 00:24:01,72 a designed it is 256 00:24:01,73 --> 00:24:07,72 a fairly long driveway and then the full. If it is designed for twenty feet and so 257 00:24:07,73 --> 00:24:12,68 the question in my mind was ever the planing as to why I wouldn't get 258 00:24:12,69 --> 00:24:16,15 a twenty four feet to make it a little bit easier for B. 259 00:24:16,16 --> 00:24:17,07 It was going into 260 00:24:17,08 --> 00:24:23,81 a trap. To contradict this isn't the planning board standard the inner 261 00:24:23,82 --> 00:24:29,25 streets determination No they simply just because of this they say it is they 262 00:24:29,44 --> 00:24:29,97 thought it would be 263 00:24:29,98 --> 00:24:36,69 a take to get here they said. Is it is it twenty 264 00:24:36,70 --> 00:24:43,46 feet with Berman and so on. The states actually starting to drain 265 00:24:43,47 --> 00:24:47,43 through a vegetative filter strip on the street 266 00:24:47,44 --> 00:24:54,34 a little bit facing because. There are no barriers on the on the pavement the 267 00:24:54,58 --> 00:24:56,74 say is designed to drain into 268 00:24:56,75 --> 00:25:02,14 a filter strip but I was just in then into the basin. For MOST lot of the whole 269 00:25:02,15 --> 00:25:06,79 site sloped approximate two percent so he thought that what I can get to that 270 00:25:06,80 --> 00:25:13,62 because. I said one thing could you go over the architecture 271 00:25:14,17 --> 00:25:17,69 type of different homes you would have here. 272 00:25:22,69 --> 00:25:29,45 Yeah that would appear. As an email to me. To 273 00:25:29,46 --> 00:25:32,73 actually get it on the website to your website. 274 00:25:41,98 --> 00:25:47,80 Where. For you. Good is going to go in the but. 275 00:25:52,12 --> 00:25:55,87 That's. What the applications and plans. 276 00:25:59,84 --> 00:26:04,21 The whole application would you be consulting just want to be very on their. 277 00:26:06,70 --> 00:26:07,27 This is what we. 278 00:26:14,33 --> 00:26:14,44 Are. 279 00:26:24,64 --> 00:26:29,84 Here to do to. You on this house here was so we had 280 00:26:30,21 --> 00:26:33,52 a bit more light on this but this is pretty much what we look at the house what 281 00:26:33,53 --> 00:26:36,52 we're going to end up with. This is when we have 282 00:26:36,53 --> 00:26:41,30 a design for fifty eight units. The. 283 00:26:43,88 --> 00:26:50,75 Vinyl siding. CORBOY. Black believes. It's. 284 00:26:52,95 --> 00:26:59,31 That was that was actually that we get that money before you go. But it's pretty 285 00:26:59,32 --> 00:27:05,85 much all the same. Get more images on this for me to show. You what 286 00:27:06,36 --> 00:27:10,92 I'm stuck in some areas of life like this you know the other one when you look at 287 00:27:10,93 --> 00:27:16,90 it on the computer. Shows a much better picture with us. You know it is 288 00:27:16,91 --> 00:27:23,67 a different color slide that I'm on the link Yeah exactly if you 289 00:27:23,68 --> 00:27:28,30 got out of this and went back to the menu this she did want to call it for twenty 290 00:27:28,31 --> 00:27:32,28 hour calling on the show at this hour is that yes the single family as opposed to 291 00:27:32,29 --> 00:27:36,46 the two families the mystery to me. Was the American and it's 292 00:27:36,47 --> 00:27:41,55 a little bit of both so. What is this that we're looking at this is one of the 293 00:27:41,56 --> 00:27:43,05 fifty eight you know this is 294 00:27:43,06 --> 00:27:49,96 a tri clips. So this is not part of right now no it isn't but it's the same type of 295 00:27:49,97 --> 00:27:56,91 building as far as what it's going to look like. You know the same side in the same 296 00:27:56,92 --> 00:28:02,99 room same train same windows same doors typically two as opposed to three or four 297 00:28:03,91 --> 00:28:06,77 books and. He had one like that that's 298 00:28:06,78 --> 00:28:12,09 a single family. Thing just the plants themselves just with the fall. 299 00:28:22,96 --> 00:28:29,86 Out of the reason we had to go away the fifty. Wasn't viable project the point. 300 00:28:32,98 --> 00:28:39,88 Was what we got for the way. That. We actually the fifty eight 301 00:28:39,89 --> 00:28:46,89 units we ended up treatment in on that was. The septic. Would be 302 00:28:47,10 --> 00:28:52,76 struck down to four units we get enough aggregate between property. To not have 303 00:28:52,86 --> 00:28:59,27 tree. I guess then on the sketches can you show us like the homes like the parking 304 00:28:59,28 --> 00:29:05,49 and things that nature kind of walk us through that. So you want to go back to the 305 00:29:05,53 --> 00:29:10,24 cycling you want to. Yeah like one who would what would be going where yeah you 306 00:29:10,25 --> 00:29:12,16 know what I would go back to the site for. 307 00:29:17,52 --> 00:29:18,95 This one you know I think and so. 308 00:29:28,84 --> 00:29:29,16 To see 309 00:29:29,17 --> 00:29:37,98 a nice little. Game you know it's wrong the side. Of 310 00:29:37,99 --> 00:29:43,73 the boat. Next one bedroom unit. Right so can you just kind of work with where 311 00:29:43,74 --> 00:29:48,96 we're like over here yes the next twenty one nineteen feet it can use thing on him 312 00:29:49,22 --> 00:29:55,69 down on the yeah right. To send one to you that they are going to be right but. 313 00:29:57,51 --> 00:30:01,76 This unit here and this building and this building that well this is 314 00:30:01,77 --> 00:30:08,68 a duplex one bedroom one either side. To see the events is. Here and here 315 00:30:09,23 --> 00:30:16,01 they're there. Which is the same on this one. The other 316 00:30:16,02 --> 00:30:20,98 which if you want to want to jump to the we can do the what plan lay out that film 317 00:30:20,99 --> 00:30:25,27 and so we can you can kind of see what the label just that we have been here so 318 00:30:25,34 --> 00:30:28,69 twenty one twenty nine hundred that's what we're going to play here OK these are 319 00:30:28,70 --> 00:30:35,50 duplexes credits went into effect the only one bedroom duplexes goes 320 00:30:36,18 --> 00:30:42,27 to these two two bedroom two places and there's only one three bedroom duplex the 321 00:30:42,45 --> 00:30:47,14 other three bedroom is a. Maybe 322 00:30:47,15 --> 00:30:53,60 a unit that is up close to the cul de sac. Is a two bedroom maybe 323 00:30:53,61 --> 00:30:57,66 a unit right you know cul de sac Also there is one building that is 324 00:30:57,67 --> 00:30:59,17 a two better minute and 325 00:30:59,18 --> 00:31:04,62 a three bedroom in it. So that we can offer our couch for twenty five percent of 326 00:31:04,99 --> 00:31:11,42 what is it. You know which one is your floor plan. You know which attachment is the 327 00:31:11,43 --> 00:31:17,50 floor. That other just the applications. 328 00:31:19,92 --> 00:31:22,62 Now. I think that must have been 329 00:31:22,63 --> 00:31:27,46 a just want to run on the other side of the top you've received. 330 00:31:38,20 --> 00:31:44,58 What. Seems to me this is to turn three two crews in to do this actually we need to 331 00:31:44,63 --> 00:31:51,56 reach them remediate the next right. This is the one that's what they'll set. In 332 00:31:51,57 --> 00:31:57,98 a typical. This is just one single force or two one bedroom one. 333 00:31:59,47 --> 00:32:00,64 Two three this is 334 00:32:00,65 --> 00:32:08,74 a. Rare. What might. That 335 00:32:08,75 --> 00:32:14,58 see clearer. Than. That. One. 336 00:32:16,15 --> 00:32:23,05 This is. Serious the. One bedroom eighty eight. 337 00:32:24,52 --> 00:32:30,62 Duplex that was one of the we'll see. The next one slice you see 338 00:32:31,48 --> 00:32:38,32 is these a one bedroom units two stories. There's 339 00:32:38,33 --> 00:32:45,21 a second story first story of so you just said the story. Lottery. Will. 340 00:32:48,89 --> 00:32:53,65 Come in. There this is 341 00:32:53,66 --> 00:33:00,63 a duplex two bedroom. Here in Britain when. They 342 00:33:00,64 --> 00:33:06,54 see the same layout one unit three dash one unit three years to. Create 343 00:33:07,50 --> 00:33:14,36 the still the yet to better of this the first load but. This is 344 00:33:14,37 --> 00:33:19,29 the this is the one building that is a two bedroom three to bed one one side 345 00:33:19,30 --> 00:33:26,22 a three bedroom on the other side. Of 346 00:33:26,85 --> 00:33:31,98 the back entrance to the right there for the best you could think of that. They 347 00:33:31,99 --> 00:33:33,44 would see that you got 348 00:33:33,45 --> 00:33:39,18 a lot better than the other in France to express this is yet three bedroom duplex 349 00:33:39,19 --> 00:33:43,04 is only one of these buildings instances where you know that's the entrance which 350 00:33:43,05 --> 00:33:47,38 is the back door. At the back there in the back of. 351 00:33:50,43 --> 00:33:56,53 The persons are upstairs going back to to she really here. Just the parking lot is 352 00:33:56,64 --> 00:34:02,05 it's big money three of six I think that has the baby's birth paperback so go back 353 00:34:02,06 --> 00:34:03,04 in the site plan. 354 00:34:08,94 --> 00:34:14,19 Oh he that was that was that one you want me to marry Yeah so is the parking is it 355 00:34:14,20 --> 00:34:19,25 all along he pull in and it's all on the the street yeah this is all parking all 356 00:34:19,26 --> 00:34:24,69 along you. See how why this is the road to. 357 00:34:27,04 --> 00:34:33,99 Twenty feet twenty feet. No not including the parking. Enclosed part 358 00:34:34,23 --> 00:34:38,71 yeah I think it's like thirty feet or so that. It was built the forty. 359 00:34:42,19 --> 00:34:48,56 Forty feet. To the full system so that from that from on this point here. 360 00:34:49,79 --> 00:34:56,72 From here here is forty feet and sat. In the park and. 361 00:34:58,31 --> 00:35:03,83 I think that's probably another eighteen foot spot so. Six feet across it's like 362 00:35:04,14 --> 00:35:10,12 fifty feet for us. In the parking that's up in the. Basically in the circle so this 363 00:35:10,13 --> 00:35:12,89 parking around the parking around the circle as well. 364 00:35:18,05 --> 00:35:23,00 Because people had to hop in the question is Is there any more this final note from 365 00:35:23,01 --> 00:35:24,84 anybody else doesn't that take 366 00:35:24,85 --> 00:35:31,37 a break for that. He explained to me why you need to know one hundred twenty five 367 00:35:31,38 --> 00:35:34,43 thousand cubic yards for us it's 368 00:35:34,44 --> 00:35:40,76 a slower seven million dollars ride because the gravel that's being sold is being 369 00:35:40,80 --> 00:35:46,46 used to build profit and it was part of my part make what made viable. 370 00:35:48,02 --> 00:35:50,76 You wouldn't be able to do the project for the whole removing is that you say 371 00:35:50,94 --> 00:35:55,04 financially. So the selling the gravel spinelessness project. 372 00:35:57,87 --> 00:36:02,58 In the. State will. Understand yet the fact. 373 00:36:06,12 --> 00:36:12,79 There is if we were to. Cut the gravel down. We lose you we lose you. 374 00:36:14,15 --> 00:36:19,44 And I basically have to go back to square one. I mean if if that's something you 375 00:36:19,45 --> 00:36:23,34 guys want to condition. That would be 376 00:36:23,35 --> 00:36:28,91 a long process going forward we could make it work but you'd have to condition. 377 00:36:31,48 --> 00:36:37,94 Meaning that. You come up with an elevation and then I figure out how much money 378 00:36:37,95 --> 00:36:44,76 we're going to make off of that we'll figure out how many units we. Have. The 379 00:36:44,77 --> 00:36:51,43 traffic study you referred to that was submitted for. Now is the state. 380 00:36:52,77 --> 00:36:55,58 Condition the traffic. Conditions 381 00:36:55,59 --> 00:37:02,57 a travesty so you still have to stop it. When do you think that will be. I'm really 382 00:37:02,58 --> 00:37:07,53 not worried about passing it they haven't the toxics would get one ten years ago. 383 00:37:08,72 --> 00:37:15,65 And the green you can't use that but for. Forty to house lights then. I'm 384 00:37:15,66 --> 00:37:19,53 sure there's more traffic than welfare that you know but to 385 00:37:19,64 --> 00:37:25,59 a mental disability trapped in this sort of traffic Who are these little brats. 386 00:37:27,33 --> 00:37:29,65 That's the temporary traffic but still it's 387 00:37:29,66 --> 00:37:34,60 a matter for you have you you know we get this up we're not just going to let 388 00:37:34,69 --> 00:37:37,92 trucks was really really all right which I like all my life but I would like to 389 00:37:37,93 --> 00:37:43,48 know something about what that call you maze frequency you've sold me who's to give 390 00:37:43,49 --> 00:37:48,21 the card to set limits of roads and what they can and cannot use because here is 391 00:37:48,22 --> 00:37:54,81 one of the things that we change this time going forward. One company now that is 392 00:37:55,03 --> 00:38:00,10 going to be responsible to all the sites right here and if you will be going to 393 00:38:00,11 --> 00:38:04,21 such and such as yourself can you provide us with the information in there. 394 00:38:05,27 --> 00:38:05,61 Probably get 395 00:38:05,62 --> 00:38:10,99 a lot of get them it was easy to get tickets for they do this every day every day 396 00:38:11,50 --> 00:38:12,43 how they know that's going to keep 397 00:38:12,44 --> 00:38:17,65 a service to. House on but to just see what he wrote how long it will take to 398 00:38:17,66 --> 00:38:24,10 remove that crap right here to us. In. Print 399 00:38:25,07 --> 00:38:29,50 I mean we need fifty if we had started building projects. We would be putting 400 00:38:30,07 --> 00:38:36,95 building on line every forty four. So you will be so say takes two years and we 401 00:38:36,99 --> 00:38:42,66 prove it. Hip hypothetic. You will structure structure for two years of the action 402 00:38:42,67 --> 00:38:48,09 no now will actually start this stuff will we end up having its up after the first 403 00:38:48,10 --> 00:38:54,26 will be. But is that those two years are gravel moved five days 404 00:38:54,27 --> 00:38:58,62 a week for me to see that and how many truckloads 405 00:38:58,63 --> 00:39:03,99 a day. Figure forty trips. With which they consider. 406 00:39:06,12 --> 00:39:12,03 Very nice to see so they'll have some. I mean if these are central here given that 407 00:39:12,46 --> 00:39:16,40 the intersection is not a right angle and Ferry Street is such 408 00:39:16,41 --> 00:39:19,48 a way. That being said though jewelry 409 00:39:19,58 --> 00:39:26,20 a lot using that volume. A lot of it's going very frustrating so right 410 00:39:27,21 --> 00:39:27,33 now 411 00:39:27,34 --> 00:39:31,15 a lot of it's going to give it to you don't do that here just out of fairness Yeah 412 00:39:31,85 --> 00:39:36,13 I believe the whole yes no this got to be all I get that OK but it is really going 413 00:39:36,14 --> 00:39:40,35 to be announcing now it's going up from the street OK Just out of fairness to us 414 00:39:40,56 --> 00:39:43,55 that in detail right here is that five days 415 00:39:43,56 --> 00:39:50,50 a week we should do the sweep if. That's what we're 416 00:39:50,51 --> 00:39:57,45 proposing be different take six months what we could get. The oil but it takes 417 00:39:57,74 --> 00:40:02,45 three weeks it's all night and skip but that's just because we need that we gotta 418 00:40:02,46 --> 00:40:07,17 live in this quarter two thousand. The mass right two thousand six. 419 00:40:11,92 --> 00:40:15,14 Hundred eighty eight units Why is this one up here to take quite 420 00:40:15,15 --> 00:40:18,44 a distance for someone that might have some type of a disability and this was 421 00:40:18,45 --> 00:40:23,79 a little bit closer to this like for that reason why this was so unlike my When it 422 00:40:23,80 --> 00:40:27,73 comes to this one and this one these are both eighty eight to one here these are 423 00:40:27,74 --> 00:40:34,65 the one bedroom. So for the concern is that eighty eight is far removed from 424 00:40:34,66 --> 00:40:40,16 the edge of pavement whereas. These units fairly close in those are very close so 425 00:40:40,17 --> 00:40:44,43 you could take instead of you guys need you you could move it over here. Actually 426 00:40:44,44 --> 00:40:45,24 of three but that it's 427 00:40:45,25 --> 00:40:50,23 a different tone and yet separate design issues little more set yeah I guess is the 428 00:40:50,24 --> 00:40:54,00 reason why we've been moving forward has just been kind of some of that may have 429 00:40:54,11 --> 00:40:59,47 missed. So I mean that. You guys will hear. 430 00:41:01,24 --> 00:41:04,51 From Brian which when we talk about what units you're referring to and for the 431 00:41:04,52 --> 00:41:10,40 audience as well. This unit you know. She was wondering why it couldn't be closer 432 00:41:10,41 --> 00:41:15,98 because these to me are these to irradiate units and they're real close to this but 433 00:41:16,87 --> 00:41:17,35 this one has 434 00:41:17,36 --> 00:41:24,07 a lot for them. Which I don't. Know why we have to protect that by 435 00:41:24,57 --> 00:41:31,39 the foot. And so this one is to as well right now when I'm on the curb to. Help. 436 00:41:41,25 --> 00:41:42,13 But it's just 437 00:41:42,33 --> 00:41:49,44 a question of the. Richest. And 438 00:41:49,51 --> 00:41:55,66 I'm just. Really. So. 439 00:41:57,30 --> 00:42:04,21 I think we need to see. Me personally I want to see she hit the responses to so. 440 00:42:04,24 --> 00:42:09,24 I'm of the town yet and it's too bad I just didn't get I'm not blaming anyone you 441 00:42:09,25 --> 00:42:11,55 know but Brenda leaving right I mean is 442 00:42:11,56 --> 00:42:15,42 a stopgap and so because of his from that I would have questions I just think it's 443 00:42:15,42 --> 00:42:20,69 . Not the best use of time of fun he was questioning him to explain stuff that'll. 444 00:42:22,18 --> 00:42:26,77 Either address it or have questions from there I mean just right if you promise 445 00:42:26,97 --> 00:42:32,16 going to sit down ride. What you can he just talks about some agreements I'd like 446 00:42:32,17 --> 00:42:35,59 to see those agreements to see what he's talking about to invoke the settlement 447 00:42:35,60 --> 00:42:40,03 agreement here Rod to broaden his in his memo talks about certain agreements. 448 00:42:41,13 --> 00:42:47,14 Specifically. The size of the settlement agreement. Here. 449 00:42:57,13 --> 00:43:02,11 That's. What I wrote I think it's OK to say. 450 00:43:06,33 --> 00:43:10,77 Yes and he just referred to in the letter from Mass house in his reference to 451 00:43:10,78 --> 00:43:14,81 a fifteen point one acre separate agreement with the town of Marshall that's when 452 00:43:14,88 --> 00:43:21,84 it gives an agreement to purchase. The abutting first assume the plan 453 00:43:22,20 --> 00:43:26,88 but see that this. Is 454 00:43:26,89 --> 00:43:31,66 a basin of the left hand upper left hand corner there of the basin was partially 455 00:43:31,67 --> 00:43:36,63 constructed on this trans property that was litigation litigation was settled we 456 00:43:36,64 --> 00:43:37,07 ended up with 457 00:43:37,08 --> 00:43:43,90 a nice butt in the option to purchase that. Five acre parcel once turtle 458 00:43:43,91 --> 00:43:49,54 mitigation was done OK I know it's talking the now some time restriction This is 459 00:43:49,55 --> 00:43:55,91 green. And they talked about the one six six your question I think Peter 460 00:43:56,77 --> 00:44:01,38 Greste it was originally that price welcome the top six acres considers recently 461 00:44:01,39 --> 00:44:03,48 subdivided sold off the curb off 462 00:44:03,49 --> 00:44:08,57 a one acre park. So when the fronts on Grove Street. Via the A and R. 463 00:44:08,58 --> 00:44:14,55 Process and sold out for reasons. That I think has been constructed 464 00:44:15,44 --> 00:44:22,29 OK So that's the one acre that is missing. All right. So when he 465 00:44:22,40 --> 00:44:26,45 said that. The letter from mass housing gives the impression that the town of since 466 00:44:26,46 --> 00:44:29,61 changed their position allowing the applicant to combine the five and take the 467 00:44:29,62 --> 00:44:35,92 parcels. That's not what we never thought being combined it being invited but it 468 00:44:35,93 --> 00:44:41,95 was never as letter so next that NO to get. A second home. 469 00:44:44,42 --> 00:44:48,91 That we never added to it so that's why I don't understand what's going to be asked 470 00:44:48,97 --> 00:44:53,60 I don't understand this question because it. For us to believe it was being 471 00:44:53,61 --> 00:44:59,27 acquired for open space and conservation purposes and try to have. So you know 472 00:44:59,31 --> 00:45:05,73 that's your way. Agreement that we had that we would accept it was that attack 473 00:45:05,74 --> 00:45:11,23 having been already created on it. OK now he's just not read the letter he's 474 00:45:11,24 --> 00:45:17,49 talking about agreements and. By the settlement. And the know he's talking to 475 00:45:17,50 --> 00:45:23,87 Franco So just because. We're going back to what I've seen I think we need and you 476 00:45:23,88 --> 00:45:28,67 talked about you had studies. Done people submit doubt address these. 477 00:45:30,84 --> 00:45:36,44 Concerns. In speaking. To Ed A think we had been 478 00:45:36,45 --> 00:45:41,88 a little and vicious cause we had hired it. To the peer review on the twenty ninth 479 00:45:41,98 --> 00:45:47,55 based on his schedule and the sleeping child and yet so as not to be feasible so 480 00:45:47,56 --> 00:45:53,60 and so with the chairman and everyone as your consulting engineer. Had been 481 00:45:53,61 --> 00:45:54,27 contacted 482 00:45:54,28 --> 00:45:58,92 a few weeks ago about this and was given the schedule of all your meetings. But 483 00:45:58,93 --> 00:46:03,52 that's all I got those first time seeing the plans and I guess first time you've 484 00:46:03,53 --> 00:46:08,71 seen some of this thing. I'm seeing two so the good news is I do remember this 485 00:46:08,72 --> 00:46:10,31 project when it was proposed to be 486 00:46:10,32 --> 00:46:14,24 a soccer field and I've made some serious visits out there obviously and we've 487 00:46:14,25 --> 00:46:17,66 talked about it several several meetings about that so I'm very familiar with the 488 00:46:17,72 --> 00:46:21,26 what they area. Issue I still have 489 00:46:21,27 --> 00:46:27,03 a couple of questions I'd like to clarify so. One of our wonderful board members 490 00:46:27,04 --> 00:46:27,51 provided me 491 00:46:27,52 --> 00:46:32,69 a package here. Before I leave for you leave tonight we're going to decide on just 492 00:46:32,70 --> 00:46:36,71 what I'm going to need for starters I don't see any drainage calculations on the 493 00:46:36,72 --> 00:46:40,14 table here that doesn't mean you didn't submit them you just need to have my own 494 00:46:40,15 --> 00:46:43,32 set no one else needs to have it they don't even know it don't don't need that they 495 00:46:43,33 --> 00:46:44,84 need to just you know I just need to have 496 00:46:44,85 --> 00:46:50,29 a set for them for me to understand what your approach is from the general layout 497 00:46:50,30 --> 00:46:54,76 of the project and the general design of the project you're similarly following the 498 00:46:54,77 --> 00:46:59,73 designed to kind of shed off the top and collect on the sides like we did before OK 499 00:47:00,05 --> 00:47:06,44 so I get that. For my edification and clarity the site that 500 00:47:06,48 --> 00:47:12,61 shows all the grading and all the all the new housing is the ten acre parcel is the 501 00:47:12,62 --> 00:47:17,28 five acre parcel just north of that or to the west or to the right of that hill to 502 00:47:17,29 --> 00:47:20,65 the north of that so that one acre parcel that we just mentioned to the right of 503 00:47:20,66 --> 00:47:22,65 that is the one that's over there. 504 00:47:28,20 --> 00:47:32,80 This is the five acre parcel you're right and you now own that or will own that I 505 00:47:32,94 --> 00:47:39,86 know I already know you already own it OK. Tell me but say again the towns but. 506 00:47:41,18 --> 00:47:45,45 That's are OK is it that's the long. Term going as 507 00:47:45,46 --> 00:47:50,28 a agreement to purchase them OK and the area where the detention basins are been 508 00:47:50,29 --> 00:47:55,29 for several years these ones he said that's one time only an hour early like the 509 00:47:55,30 --> 00:48:02,08 sun has an easement for that that on his land CHRIS OK And then the access is 510 00:48:02,12 --> 00:48:07,79 off the ferry street so. Right away OK so good I'm clear about that so let's talk 511 00:48:07,80 --> 00:48:14,14 about natural heritage so as you know that there's this site is the site endangered 512 00:48:14,15 --> 00:48:20,05 species habitat is any of the remember to the right of this if you will looking for 513 00:48:20,06 --> 00:48:24,65 North arrow where you're north they're all very doubtful OK OK So to the east here 514 00:48:24,66 --> 00:48:28,99 of your primary site was near you started to clear years ago when we found out that 515 00:48:28,100 --> 00:48:33,41 it was natural heritage and you stopped was it still doesn't it natural heritage 516 00:48:33,61 --> 00:48:38,24 habitat is any of your present proposed site your ten acre parcel let's call it an 517 00:48:38,76 --> 00:48:42,82 endangered species habitat and it's a consideration that you say again and it was 518 00:48:42,83 --> 00:48:47,41 a consideration not endangered species I'm sorry sorry but under the Natural 519 00:48:47,42 --> 00:48:49,86 Heritage Well RAM Journal and any G.S.T. 520 00:48:49,97 --> 00:48:53,74 Right so have you filed an application for that would been with any ironically 521 00:48:53,75 --> 00:48:59,06 comprehensive permit is what it's called to say they actually we do have one winter 522 00:48:59,07 --> 00:49:03,71 work permit Schimmel all the new fencing we have brought in 523 00:49:03,72 --> 00:49:09,15 a little closer to where the fields were before. So so there are different what I'm 524 00:49:09,16 --> 00:49:12,93 going to ask you guys is what what does that do to impact your project is there 525 00:49:12,94 --> 00:49:17,47 grading is there restoration is there fencing know disturbed habitat signs anything 526 00:49:18,17 --> 00:49:23,33 the same program we had before so I don't remember everything we had before so 527 00:49:23,53 --> 00:49:27,23 forgive me I remember the site I'm familiar what you're proposing but I don't 528 00:49:27,24 --> 00:49:30,54 remember everything but I want to know about it was actually working with a T.S.P. 529 00:49:30,62 --> 00:49:31,06 So you don't have 530 00:49:31,07 --> 00:49:35,59 a permit from them yet have our existing draft private that were made right so you 531 00:49:35,63 --> 00:49:35,94 don't have 532 00:49:35,95 --> 00:49:40,38 a permit for this use yet for this project yet we're trying to amend and replace 533 00:49:40,39 --> 00:49:45,76 the word private for this right wing to work to do what we mean by that we'll have 534 00:49:45,77 --> 00:49:47,60 a demonstration on a ten acre parcel 535 00:49:47,61 --> 00:49:51,40 a five acre parcel OK then you can be in the in 536 00:49:51,41 --> 00:49:56,03 a parcel I soon to the to the state you still own you still own I don't I sold that 537 00:49:56,22 --> 00:50:00,98 that's Oh not that one below it says directly to the east of that this year yes I 538 00:50:00,99 --> 00:50:07,20 don't think so you don't own that OK so. The natural heritage programs still have 539 00:50:07,21 --> 00:50:11,15 jurisdiction which may affect your build ability in certain areas we run into this 540 00:50:11,16 --> 00:50:16,92 another forty B.'s right here in town so you need to get that rules of engagement 541 00:50:16,96 --> 00:50:21,22 figured out before your know we have we've had conversations on what we're doing it 542 00:50:21,23 --> 00:50:23,88 I can't really advise the board to to make 543 00:50:23,89 --> 00:50:27,53 a decision without having that information so they know where you can or cannot 544 00:50:27,54 --> 00:50:30,49 bill I mean I'm make that recommendation for them 545 00:50:30,50 --> 00:50:34,77 a day's work and what you like you see here right now was that we have already got 546 00:50:34,78 --> 00:50:40,10 one went to work for me for all those fancy and the calculations for the OK and 547 00:50:40,11 --> 00:50:44,65 that we were saving and the land that we were building OK So so I think it behooves 548 00:50:44,66 --> 00:50:49,43 you if you would we've got to provide provide the documentation on your winter work 549 00:50:49,48 --> 00:50:54,15 to get to the board so they know what you're allowed to do and see what the what 550 00:50:54,19 --> 00:50:57,27 Natural Heritage Program is saying about what your project supposed to be at 551 00:50:57,28 --> 00:51:02,20 thinking to disclose that OK it's it's an important component this it may direct 552 00:51:02,21 --> 00:51:05,96 what you don't get to do what you can get to actually know Jerry was involved with 553 00:51:05,96 --> 00:51:12,73 . What I got that went to work for. Those What do you know especially for. The 554 00:51:12,74 --> 00:51:16,65 case to tell us what you know let me continue traffic I didn't understand what you 555 00:51:16,66 --> 00:51:17,79 meant by traffic are you doing 556 00:51:17,80 --> 00:51:21,67 a traffic study wait for traffic study what's going on right now it's 557 00:51:22,26 --> 00:51:28,04 a condition from the state that I do OK. I mean you guys want to do something else 558 00:51:28,09 --> 00:51:28,67 in the D.H. 559 00:51:28,68 --> 00:51:32,21 See the letter it says that they have their site approval letter it says Thou shalt 560 00:51:32,22 --> 00:51:32,35 do 561 00:51:32,36 --> 00:51:37,31 a traffic study. In it with regard to that I think they need to be to traffic studies 562 00:51:37,81 --> 00:51:42,62 one based on the the traffic from the units themselves and the other based on the 563 00:51:42,63 --> 00:51:47,38 movement of the temporary grab removal so I I was interested and I know we did this 564 00:51:47,42 --> 00:51:52,52 discussion the last time right and I think I had some time with Attorney Galvin we 565 00:51:52,53 --> 00:51:54,11 were figuring out what made sense for 566 00:51:54,12 --> 00:51:59,15 a number of trips per day and the neighbors were very concerned about that so I was 567 00:51:59,16 --> 00:52:04,53 very concerned about the traffic ability on on very street so I think I could. Why 568 00:52:04,54 --> 00:52:08,15 on going back to that lease that model I just don't remember it was but you said 569 00:52:08,85 --> 00:52:12,80 and this is from your calculations now down I guess and you guys can tell me what 570 00:52:12,92 --> 00:52:14,46 what the answer is forty trips 571 00:52:14,47 --> 00:52:18,61 a day case of twenty trucks in the morning twenty trips in the afternoon type of 572 00:52:18,62 --> 00:52:19,68 thing five days 573 00:52:19,69 --> 00:52:25,59 a week from home many weeks. Well five gets one hundred twenty five two hundred 574 00:52:25,60 --> 00:52:26,16 fifty days 575 00:52:26,17 --> 00:52:31,63 a year taken so they'd be to what it is to win fifty working days and here OK so 576 00:52:31,86 --> 00:52:36,30 a little less than two years followed two years by the time we don't know what size 577 00:52:36,31 --> 00:52:41,70 trucks eighteen will sit and will eighteen rows in some ten let me try actually 578 00:52:42,15 --> 00:52:44,74 trail. Can we have 579 00:52:44,75 --> 00:52:50,62 a truck trip table that by two is only one turn the soccer field will rise and 580 00:52:50,63 --> 00:52:50,98 provide 581 00:52:50,99 --> 00:52:55,91 a team that is going to submit to them Walker said I think we're going to need some 582 00:52:55,92 --> 00:53:00,49 type of traffic stop so so not only not only do we need the traffic study that the 583 00:53:00,50 --> 00:53:05,77 state asked for but I also didn't forget the last time Peter we talked about and I 584 00:53:05,78 --> 00:53:06,03 hired 585 00:53:06,04 --> 00:53:10,65 a consultant from finessing associates to look at the traffic review but we also 586 00:53:10,66 --> 00:53:15,21 talked about a turning lean on one ferry three in widening part of 587 00:53:15,22 --> 00:53:18,26 a very street looked like that was feasible I still have those plans I know what I 588 00:53:18,27 --> 00:53:23,05 still feel so you didn't want that they want to deal with the intersection that 589 00:53:23,06 --> 00:53:24,83 large because it was so I need to search in 590 00:53:24,84 --> 00:53:31,83 a Walgreens. OK Well we were we were obviously concerned about the peak traffic on 591 00:53:31,84 --> 00:53:34,82 a Saturday morning going into the going into the site causing 592 00:53:34,83 --> 00:53:39,91 a problem going north and south and cares Wall Street would rush and meet. With 593 00:53:39,92 --> 00:53:44,36 everyone else so I think I understand that and I just wanted to offer that to the 594 00:53:44,37 --> 00:53:48,41 board of I'm not saying we need that but it was something I'd like to look at yeah 595 00:53:48,45 --> 00:53:51,44 yeah but I think rather than waiting for the period you want to start the ball 596 00:53:51,45 --> 00:53:56,87 rolling getting that done I could I could certainly yeah we can I mean it will have 597 00:53:56,88 --> 00:54:02,20 a copy of that right I mean legend. What we didn't want to have is people blocking 598 00:54:02,21 --> 00:54:05,85 traffic on Ferry Street on Saturday morning going. To the going to the events Yes 599 00:54:06,06 --> 00:54:06,83 OK that's 600 00:54:06,84 --> 00:54:11,33 a different dynamic here not right different dynamic different be close so I guess 601 00:54:11,62 --> 00:54:17,64 I would necessarily disagree with Mr Parker chinos point on that. So I think the 602 00:54:17,65 --> 00:54:24,64 traffic should be obviously looked at. So I'm I'm observing 603 00:54:24,65 --> 00:54:27,03 a few things and I guess I did 604 00:54:27,18 --> 00:54:30,84 a good get contacted I think and this is by no means a 605 00:54:30,85 --> 00:54:34,97 a slight on any of the of the full time staff that were here so we had 606 00:54:34,98 --> 00:54:39,81 a change in staff. And it looks like these plans have been before the board for 607 00:54:39,82 --> 00:54:44,06 some time or least before the town for some time like months September I guess you 608 00:54:44,07 --> 00:54:51,07 submitted. So I told her minutes and temper and it was OK We had 609 00:54:51,08 --> 00:54:54,69 six we're going to settle I think all the factions are heard hearing Yeah OK and we 610 00:54:54,70 --> 00:54:58,78 hope we had here within thirty days in response to under the statute just to open 611 00:54:58,79 --> 00:55:04,47 it would just open test of all right so unfortunately I had you know. I think it 612 00:55:04,48 --> 00:55:10,18 would be certainly reasonable for you to have your engineer submit documents to me 613 00:55:10,19 --> 00:55:13,31 again Daryn and I would go for exactly what the heck I do need that I don't have 614 00:55:14,05 --> 00:55:19,62 and I need to have some sufficient time to do that so what what we had just talked 615 00:55:19,63 --> 00:55:24,31 about was your schedule and I'll just kind of enlighten everybody and and and it 616 00:55:24,36 --> 00:55:28,39 yeah it's all it's all my fault so to speak but in two weeks we're going to go to 617 00:55:28,40 --> 00:55:31,91 a peer review now some of that I could do sure some of that I could do but in two 618 00:55:31,92 --> 00:55:36,82 weeks I have another peer review I'm doing for the town and then tuck it on the 619 00:55:36,83 --> 00:55:42,59 thirtieth. And I have three projects I'm reviewing for them for the planning board 620 00:55:42,60 --> 00:55:44,45 so I've got a party get 621 00:55:44,46 --> 00:55:48,25 a full plate with the holiday next week and so on I think it's not possible for me 622 00:55:48,26 --> 00:55:48,57 to give 623 00:55:48,58 --> 00:55:55,52 a adequate peer review visit with. Mr Procket Cino and make it my own site 624 00:55:55,53 --> 00:56:00,31 visit up to the site Peter and get it all done by the by the by the twenty ninth so 625 00:56:00,31 --> 00:56:04,95 . Chairman and I were talking that perhaps the peer review. Night would be the 626 00:56:04,96 --> 00:56:09,30 thirteenth of December at least you'd be having you have 627 00:56:09,31 --> 00:56:13,66 a comment before that you'd have time to respond to that work on that policy you 628 00:56:13,67 --> 00:56:18,87 have it the week prior. And and the thirtieth of December would be when we would do 629 00:56:18,88 --> 00:56:23,42 it but then we're into. June I don't know if you have another meeting scheduled 630 00:56:23,43 --> 00:56:25,01 before the holiday like 631 00:56:25,02 --> 00:56:28,28 a lot of these things it's mostly we have him for Terry right so I think we can 632 00:56:28,29 --> 00:56:31,42 start in the twenty I mean they're going to give us some information for his plans 633 00:56:31,63 --> 00:56:35,55 right is one of the thing I want to see but and then maybe we can hear 634 00:56:35,56 --> 00:56:38,23 a little bit from you just started on the I mean I had 635 00:56:39,03 --> 00:56:43,13 a little no no question and then no question we could do that so but I should up on 636 00:56:43,14 --> 00:56:48,57 the see if we can finish in the thirtieth maybe some input from the from the very 637 00:56:48,58 --> 00:56:49,92 community in the community and then have 638 00:56:49,93 --> 00:56:53,27 a court hearing it correct. And she will be 639 00:56:53,28 --> 00:56:59,64 a board member with the other one to tell his side. Of the fiction for us. 640 00:57:02,93 --> 00:57:06,89 To get to because originally the second hearing is going to be peer review the an 641 00:57:06,90 --> 00:57:11,30 input from the various town pushes we have some here yet you know in addition to 642 00:57:11,31 --> 00:57:17,49 what they've written OK the fight on the that was reaching the twenty ninth I would 643 00:57:17,50 --> 00:57:22,84 say we. Should probably about thirteen or do it on one of them still. 644 00:57:25,16 --> 00:57:31,53 Let's see what we are playing the field of play. But also what they will you show 645 00:57:31,54 --> 00:57:35,36 us some designs of the homes but. They want 646 00:57:35,37 --> 00:57:40,88 a fifty eight units I'd like to see some architecture designs so one family go look 647 00:57:40,89 --> 00:57:46,24 like what's to family look like you want to see Rent friendly yet. 648 00:57:48,66 --> 00:57:54,51 In which two bedroom The supposed to three bedrooms poster bed and one so. The 649 00:57:54,52 --> 00:57:57,38 Chairman members of the board with some discussion about the twenty foot travel way 650 00:57:57,39 --> 00:58:03,57 come and get so let me tell you my philosophy is that. Typically a two way to 651 00:58:03,58 --> 00:58:04,62 a traffic. Is 652 00:58:04,63 --> 00:58:11,21 a twenty four foot wide travel typically. It certainly can be smaller than that 653 00:58:11,93 --> 00:58:17,17 and traffic engineers will tell you that the theory is you make it smaller it's 654 00:58:17,55 --> 00:58:22,65 more difficult to go at higher speeds and therefore everyone go slower. When you 655 00:58:22,66 --> 00:58:22,86 make 656 00:58:22,87 --> 00:58:26,66 a small driveway people go slower they don't speak to the driveway they go slower 657 00:58:26,73 --> 00:58:31,20 so there's an argument to be made that the twenty foot is adequate in arguing 658 00:58:31,47 --> 00:58:35,21 whether you accept that argument or not as your is it appears up to you I would say 659 00:58:35,70 --> 00:58:37,09 that a twenty foot travel way which 660 00:58:37,10 --> 00:58:42,95 a ten foot lanes is is not unreasonable unreasonably wide enough 661 00:58:43,89 --> 00:58:48,81 not unreadably narrow I should say it would be acceptable what they have here is 662 00:58:48,85 --> 00:58:52,28 eighteen foot long parking spaces and it looks like 663 00:58:52,87 --> 00:58:59,24 a twenty two foot wide aisle twenty but but I heard you say forty. In the first 664 00:58:59,25 --> 00:59:04,72 section so that's eighteen and twenty two No twenty one so it's thirty or so it's 665 00:59:04,73 --> 00:59:10,73 thirty eight so another twenty and twenty OK so it's twenty and twenty and sixty 666 00:59:10,74 --> 00:59:12,64 dot fifty eight and the in a double in 667 00:59:12,65 --> 00:59:19,60 a double wide right OK so. Twenty two feet is what I'm twenty four 668 00:59:19,61 --> 00:59:25,83 feet is also that the standard of the state of the art with with two opposing 669 00:59:25,84 --> 00:59:30,90 parking spaces backing up OK so you can have enough room to circulate twenty two is 670 00:59:30,90 --> 00:59:36,77 . Determined to be relatively acceptable as well twenty I'm not so sure. 671 00:59:38,75 --> 00:59:42,68 Twenty is it's not the end of the world it's just one parking space to be one 672 00:59:42,69 --> 00:59:45,80 person back in all this but with a large with 673 00:59:45,81 --> 00:59:52,59 a large vehicle it may be even more difficult. Technically. You 674 00:59:52,60 --> 00:59:58,61 know on the front of the. But office over the eighty eight units should you put it 675 00:59:58,62 --> 01:00:03,42 why but technically. You could get away the eighteen foot parking spaces too so 676 01:00:03,43 --> 01:00:06,48 you're kind of in the. You know kind in the middle we could be eighteen eighteen 677 01:00:06,49 --> 01:00:11,71 and you get now twenty four between you affectively have effectively have the same 678 01:00:12,25 --> 01:00:16,61 dimensions so to speak in stead of instead of it being sixty four feet from end to 679 01:00:16,62 --> 01:00:23,50 end at sixty. Yeah but. I would I would I would argue that 680 01:00:23,88 --> 01:00:27,74 the ones between the two parking spaces ought to be at least twenty two feet apart 681 01:00:28,37 --> 01:00:35,07 the space would be twenty two feet or. The other ones I think we could. Safely say 682 01:00:35,08 --> 01:00:41,14 would be reasonable circulation because that's just off the cuff and again on the 683 01:00:41,30 --> 01:00:45,28 that's why I asked about whether you had to put berm down on the main axis way 684 01:00:45,37 --> 01:00:48,98 obviously you don't because you're trying to super elevate it sounds like it's and 685 01:00:49,29 --> 01:00:53,60 and if you keep or burn you know you have twenty two foot wide brush. But you have 686 01:00:53,87 --> 01:00:58,90 one foot one for the sub but you could mitigate the twenty foot by putting 687 01:00:59,08 --> 01:01:05,66 a foot or two gravel strip on each side to you could do that so but this moment I 688 01:01:05,67 --> 01:01:10,43 would not I would recommend to the board that twenty feet is acceptable it's not 689 01:01:10,82 --> 01:01:15,18 mounted on completely out of the question driveway which are. 690 01:01:17,97 --> 01:01:22,74 Right down to the taking of those who know what to and that. I think the. 691 01:01:26,15 --> 01:01:30,00 OK We'll talk with I guess that's all I can talk with it to the media guys can 692 01:01:30,01 --> 01:01:34,17 communicate that we've told you NO least from my perspective I would like to see 693 01:01:34,18 --> 01:01:40,01 some architecture renderings address these issues whatever studies are planned but 694 01:01:40,05 --> 01:01:46,65 we have before other boards into us. Well some of those with you know you have 695 01:01:46,66 --> 01:01:51,18 a question I have is. I took 696 01:01:51,19 --> 01:01:55,01 a trip down Farish street few days ago hoping to find 697 01:01:55,02 --> 01:02:01,17 a bridle path that that made that apocryphal road and walk back. I would actually 698 01:02:01,18 --> 01:02:01,58 like to do 699 01:02:01,59 --> 01:02:10,00 a site visit. Everyone. If you can walk that she would have. Just 700 01:02:10,13 --> 01:02:16,04 you. Know well I still I want one I want to do something for the stories they're 701 01:02:16,94 --> 01:02:22,03 like you know just be me. So encourage everyone to do what I've done there I'll go 702 01:02:22,04 --> 01:02:28,49 again but I'm pretty sure that every. Child that will change content 703 01:02:28,94 --> 01:02:35,91 if. You want to. Come From A look at myself 704 01:02:35,92 --> 01:02:41,38 to I'm. A plaything and so many any different types of children things just don't 705 01:02:41,39 --> 01:02:45,63 seem to fit in that area they just don't seem to go with what's going on they are 706 01:02:45,64 --> 01:02:48,17 in the types of posts that I know it's 707 01:02:48,18 --> 01:02:51,64 a different you know Hartnett's and what have you but they just don't seem to get 708 01:02:51,65 --> 01:02:55,31 you planning on submitting something different different styles at all or are you 709 01:02:55,32 --> 01:03:01,26 just going to try to stick with this. Yeah I mean it's for the children. To have 710 01:03:01,36 --> 01:03:03,30 something that you I just I don't I'm not 711 01:03:03,31 --> 01:03:06,85 a fan of these at all I just think that you know down the line the disk into 712 01:03:06,86 --> 01:03:11,18 a plate rowhouses they're just not going to be they just don't seem to fit that 713 01:03:11,19 --> 01:03:13,27 area so I'd like to see something that fits 714 01:03:13,28 --> 01:03:17,39 a little bit better with the area that you're going in there which. I don't think 715 01:03:17,44 --> 01:03:22,70 it is the only one we have to begin to really love to see this from the road. To 716 01:03:22,74 --> 01:03:28,94 stall so I'm. Right I don't think that that matters if anybody's going to see it 717 01:03:28,95 --> 01:03:32,48 from the road or not the people that are living there are going to see it and I I 718 01:03:32,49 --> 01:03:38,62 just don't put my personal point of view I don't think it matches the area so. That 719 01:03:38,63 --> 01:03:41,09 was my question I want I just didn't want it that's 720 01:03:41,10 --> 01:03:45,00 a Free Thought I mean if it's not what's going to try to keep everything as you 721 01:03:45,01 --> 01:03:51,18 know it was possible to feed the patient as well before we. Start changing stuff 722 01:03:51,19 --> 01:03:57,58 along the way you know what recently states they can fix anything. So we can expect 723 01:03:57,58 --> 01:04:04,43 . Once we got to if you that's what we figured OK now it's time that well. If I 724 01:04:04,44 --> 01:04:09,61 may say I've changed everything. Bob did you have 725 01:04:09,62 --> 01:04:13,99 a question. Here what what financial. 726 01:04:16,02 --> 01:04:20,66 Arrangements are made to escrow the money so if you would have the funds to 727 01:04:20,67 --> 01:04:27,60 construct the project. Some shopping so what's the arrangements. How 728 01:04:27,61 --> 01:04:32,60 much would what is your projected revenue for. One year and it will. 729 01:04:35,12 --> 01:04:40,00 How much is the total good will hold all the foreigners what if there are thousands 730 01:04:40,23 --> 01:04:45,23 it's going to generate one point eight million. So what is the proposing to put one 731 01:04:45,44 --> 01:04:47,44 point eight million dollars with so through 732 01:04:47,45 --> 01:04:53,13 a savings bank will be actually building the site out as we go and then once we 733 01:04:53,14 --> 01:04:57,53 have it once we have no but who's going to hold the money as it comes in from the 734 01:04:57,68 --> 01:05:03,31 sale so that gets the president is going to be vested right back into the brush you 735 01:05:03,32 --> 01:05:08,68 see we're in agreement in place for the bank to do that. Right now no you want that 736 01:05:09,24 --> 01:05:13,81 we're going to need it if I think the town with the debt to know that you know the 737 01:05:14,07 --> 01:05:17,77 projects going to expect fully you know that you're not going to take the money 738 01:05:17,78 --> 01:05:23,09 from your thermal project and. Spend out for good purposes 739 01:05:23,10 --> 01:05:26,52 a bad person put another million dollars in to make 740 01:05:26,53 --> 01:05:31,83 a million A then throw away the well you know to me and look be satisfied with just 741 01:05:32,01 --> 01:05:36,15 doing the earth it will work and the money that you'd make and maybe this project 742 01:05:36,16 --> 01:05:40,00 isn't viable and I'm just trying to find out you know if there is 743 01:05:40,01 --> 01:05:41,55 a design right now to get 744 01:05:41,56 --> 01:05:45,13 a viable price I think we're going to build but no I don't fully agree with but if 745 01:05:45,14 --> 01:05:48,77 the money were to be expended and weren't available that be no forty big project 746 01:05:48,78 --> 01:05:52,52 then we would have provided you want to earth removal permit with the project in 747 01:05:52,53 --> 01:05:57,78 the end and that's what I my concern is. So that we can get 748 01:05:57,79 --> 01:06:02,47 a copy the agreement in place with the bank to assure that that money's going to. 749 01:06:04,08 --> 01:06:06,67 Be. The people who got it could mean 750 01:06:07,37 --> 01:06:13,01 a lot of it's going to be put in its equity like will be like engineering skin to 751 01:06:13,02 --> 01:06:13,59 be this going to be 752 01:06:13,60 --> 01:06:20,53 a lot more engineering done between now and then traffic study. Will be just 753 01:06:20,54 --> 01:06:22,86 the plan designs this was 754 01:06:22,87 --> 01:06:26,95 a good sort of zero thirty thousand troops of the money on project related expenses 755 01:06:26,96 --> 01:06:32,28 so yeah I was concerned that to the extent they. Did everything everything will be 756 01:06:32,29 --> 01:06:37,08 accounted for so that you can see whether it's SO that because it will be spent on 757 01:06:37,09 --> 01:06:43,97 the project. And dying for died that what we take it will. Be paying for stuff for 758 01:06:43,98 --> 01:06:45,76 the project so I mean will there be 759 01:06:45,77 --> 01:06:52,41 a million A at some job bank probably not but will all that money be accounted for 760 01:06:52,63 --> 01:06:59,48 for plans. Anything else that we have to do I mean that the good in the government 761 01:06:59,49 --> 01:07:03,03 is not at all you want to do the right here for the time because you're just to 762 01:07:03,04 --> 01:07:03,98 make sure that there's 763 01:07:03,99 --> 01:07:08,08 a mechanism in place pretty sure that the money that you drive it's 764 01:07:08,09 --> 01:07:12,55 a profit will be spent on Iraq and struck the project right and those will be left 765 01:07:12,56 --> 01:07:17,29 with the project in the end and not just the sanctity of that money to the for so 766 01:07:17,30 --> 01:07:20,14 you're thinking some kind of independent agency perhaps 767 01:07:20,15 --> 01:07:25,64 a bank or someone placing the best that it's got so the same bank might read to act 768 01:07:25,65 --> 01:07:31,45 as an intermediary. And producer on this for 769 01:07:31,46 --> 01:07:36,95 a second to step one design question on the one that may be. There. 770 01:07:38,81 --> 01:07:39,24 To make just 771 01:07:39,25 --> 01:07:46,03 a little bit here. Get real good it just may know him very impressive 772 01:07:46,04 --> 01:07:50,82 builder then. I thought Jerry has already gone with this I don't know you so here 773 01:07:50,83 --> 01:07:57,74 sixty six. Right there is one. That's an interesting phrase I understand but you 774 01:07:57,75 --> 01:08:02,42 suit it all you can paint your right here's here's your sixty six now pick it up 775 01:08:02,43 --> 01:08:07,60 over here so. He didn't carry it over is that just could all be gone he is going to 776 01:08:07,61 --> 01:08:14,30 be sixty six to sixty six here. Yet existing great so it's you're just not going to 777 01:08:14,31 --> 01:08:17,88 touch it this is going to be cut it's all going to be sixty six right away I'll be 778 01:08:17,89 --> 01:08:24,82 sixty six so we get to sixty six here. And it'll tie into that great so this 779 01:08:24,83 --> 01:08:31,47 will be flat and yet here. You have permission to remove her from the town property 780 01:08:31,48 --> 01:08:38,28 or that your practice my private OK. So you self. Right it's that you're 781 01:08:38,29 --> 01:08:43,25 supposed to sell it fresh right or left are you getting an earth removal permit for 782 01:08:43,26 --> 01:08:47,91 the five acre parcel or is that subsumed in what you're asking for here that's it's 783 01:08:48,07 --> 01:08:52,54 well part of this. OK So let's agree that that's a color that's 784 01:08:52,55 --> 01:08:54,81 a different color actually that's also we're not really 785 01:08:55,58 --> 01:08:59,89 a seventy three so long as it is and that's fine it requires an earth removal 786 01:08:59,90 --> 01:09:05,82 permit to move any material off the five acre parcel but if that's included in this 787 01:09:05,83 --> 01:09:11,73 permit then that is this war grant that if that land is included in the in the in 788 01:09:11,74 --> 01:09:17,74 the other case it isn't. It's part of evidence yet it's also part of getting there 789 01:09:17,75 --> 01:09:22,76 is it just just five acre parcel including the application I don't know it's not 790 01:09:22,77 --> 01:09:28,07 included in the application so it needs to see it needs to be put on the C.B.S. 791 01:09:28,87 --> 01:09:33,10 Or else you have to go to this one for an Earth removal from which you can do. I 792 01:09:33,11 --> 01:09:36,19 mean you don't have to do it here I just want to die so I mean that we made the 793 01:09:36,20 --> 01:09:41,37 grade and it's part of the appetite restoration on that side of that fence is part 794 01:09:41,38 --> 01:09:45,45 of that terrorist operation so that's part of the project so you have an old. 795 01:09:47,53 --> 01:09:52,23 Permit from natural heritage that requires habitat restoration after you build 796 01:09:52,24 --> 01:09:55,76 something and we're going to build something right which is now changing your back 797 01:09:55,77 --> 01:09:59,94 before them to amend it sounds like which is all the right thing but I guess we 798 01:09:59,95 --> 01:10:00,36 should get 799 01:10:00,37 --> 01:10:04,85 a copy of that just so you understand what direction you'd be given credit. We can 800 01:10:04,86 --> 01:10:05,28 obviously get 801 01:10:05,29 --> 01:10:12,95 a member of M C T's you get from there and you can get in and. Get 802 01:10:12,96 --> 01:10:17,04 the latest and greatest updates from them on where we stand on everything so that 803 01:10:17,05 --> 01:10:22,85 that way it's not OK old stuff that we haven't yet worked from it says that. OK. 804 01:10:27,03 --> 01:10:28,49 I think you know what you need to get us. 805 01:10:34,04 --> 01:10:39,73 Going on when I start off with addressing. You have any you will get your. 806 01:10:40,83 --> 01:10:47,77 Hopes up. That most of us. I don't mean I'd raise 807 01:10:47,78 --> 01:10:52,78 some of them but I think if you go through. Some of the concerns those will be 808 01:10:52,79 --> 01:10:58,12 addressed I just circled them when I was taking that and it worked and I broke down 809 01:10:58,13 --> 01:11:02,45 what I heard there was anything else you are looking for the drainage calculations 810 01:11:03,12 --> 01:11:07,14 for those already in you know just get in the Congress need to cook you know have 811 01:11:07,15 --> 01:11:10,81 a look at putting this traffic study on the units and the traffic study for the 812 01:11:10,82 --> 01:11:16,69 gravel removal you need the information of the National Heritage. And you need 813 01:11:17,62 --> 01:11:24,42 agreement with the bank for the escrow of the funds. And then maybe the play needs 814 01:11:24,43 --> 01:11:27,64 to be revised to show the portion of the five acres for 815 01:11:27,65 --> 01:11:33,09 a salute what you're going to do we're right in Lhasa architectural renderings for 816 01:11:33,10 --> 01:11:38,24 the homes. One bedroom two bedroom. One to. 817 01:11:42,15 --> 01:11:48,95 Move the street. Which is the chair. In the 818 01:11:48,96 --> 01:11:53,36 head will start I guess you can. Hear stuff when I think of 819 01:11:53,37 --> 01:11:58,40 a Tony I got going through a plumber a few so far what I'll probably do is 820 01:11:58,41 --> 01:12:03,09 a work session with Baron and go to his office me just the pages circle to meet 821 01:12:03,10 --> 01:12:07,09 somewhere just to pay. If you go through it like that for if you find that to be 822 01:12:07,10 --> 01:12:11,87 very productive I can just you know. I mean there's 823 01:12:11,88 --> 01:12:17,77 a lot to absorb already but not. For me to absorb tonight it looks like to write. 824 01:12:18,88 --> 01:12:25,31 To explain to the audience where it's been in. Some explain 825 01:12:26,26 --> 01:12:26,73 we've set up 826 01:12:26,74 --> 01:12:30,50 a schedule the first meeting of three hearings for tonight we're going to hear from 827 01:12:30,51 --> 01:12:33,60 the applicants then we're going to go to the peer review and then we're going to go 828 01:12:33,61 --> 01:12:33,67 to 829 01:12:33,68 --> 01:12:41,97 a question from. The from the audience. But 830 01:12:42,92 --> 01:12:47,92 we're going to try to stay on the same schedule. But we need to hear more from the 831 01:12:47,93 --> 01:12:52,50 applicant because of some different plans that need to be submitted. We're going to 832 01:12:52,51 --> 01:12:56,43 start peer review on the twenty ninth who are not going to finish it probably 833 01:12:56,44 --> 01:13:00,87 finish that on the thirteenth and we're going to start your questions. But I expect 834 01:13:00,88 --> 01:13:01,17 we're going have 835 01:13:01,18 --> 01:13:05,54 a fourth hearing. This often happens in this but we're going to hear from you 836 01:13:05,55 --> 01:13:09,29 whether we finish on the thirteenth the next turn we will hear from you so we're 837 01:13:09,30 --> 01:13:15,74 still going for the twenty nine. Seven thirty. And. 838 01:13:17,56 --> 01:13:20,95 Then we'll start to hear from you guys in the in the thirteen but we're still in 839 01:13:20,96 --> 01:13:26,83 the information gathering process so. That. 840 01:13:28,02 --> 01:13:30,07 We don't make a decision and there was 841 01:13:30,08 --> 01:13:36,85 a comment before. The system has been made yet we're in the information gathering 842 01:13:36,86 --> 01:13:41,22 stage right now as you can see from tonight's hearing we still have received all 843 01:13:41,23 --> 01:13:45,54 the information the decision has been made I can speak for myself and certainly for 844 01:13:45,55 --> 01:13:51,25 the other one members on this application. You really don't get into that till 845 01:13:51,26 --> 01:13:54,01 after these are close so I make 846 01:13:54,02 --> 01:14:00,88 a motion that we. Know to continue to assert continue to be sorry but that is 847 01:14:01,68 --> 01:14:06,76 just please point of information. A little board member just one car that I you 848 01:14:06,77 --> 01:14:07,97 know I'm I know this is just 849 01:14:07,98 --> 01:14:13,10 a second. Peter which is just would you explain that the probably It seems like we 850 01:14:13,11 --> 01:14:13,21 have 851 01:14:13,22 --> 01:14:17,46 a bigger crowd here tonight could you just explain the project briefly couldn't know 852 01:14:17,47 --> 01:14:18,57 what it is it's 853 01:14:18,90 --> 01:14:25,69 a rental versus ownership. You know. How one of the rental agreed you don't get the 854 01:14:25,70 --> 01:14:30,15 feel of these units be affordable in perpetuity What's a breakdown just 855 01:14:30,16 --> 01:14:32,29 a quick summary as I said it seems like 856 01:14:32,30 --> 01:14:36,90 a bigger crowd than last time and just to kind of recap what this is if you don't 857 01:14:36,91 --> 01:14:43,02 mind there is more units that are going to be built. Twenty five percent of them 858 01:14:43,03 --> 01:14:49,82 will be what will. They this complex will stay as affordable complex in 859 01:14:49,89 --> 01:14:55,03 perpetuity. It's to all duplex homes. 860 01:15:00,02 --> 01:15:06,02 Far as I can see you know it's two story in some single story homes. No different 861 01:15:06,03 --> 01:15:12,91 than what's already in the neighborhood. It's no great location as 862 01:15:12,92 --> 01:15:19,45 far as I can see. And somebody's coming for all the units being. 863 01:15:20,78 --> 01:15:25,52 A tribute to the fort to the housing of a two hundred percent thank you to 864 01:15:25,53 --> 01:15:30,28 a perk means hundred percent of your cold right for sale you know it's only twenty 865 01:15:30,29 --> 01:15:36,62 five percent of your that's all right but they're only qualifying their. Portable 866 01:15:36,63 --> 01:15:42,95 in perpetuity. It's kind of hard to you can't even get this once or twice. 867 01:15:45,08 --> 01:15:46,15 As far as apartments go 868 01:15:46,75 --> 01:15:53,69 a. Half to five years. That's housing will come back and reassess the 869 01:15:53,70 --> 01:16:00,53 old place. If they want to do updates. Refinancing and 870 01:16:00,54 --> 01:16:02,39 don't have to know you take 871 01:16:02,40 --> 01:16:10,09 a project to support you not. Humans. And 872 01:16:10,10 --> 01:16:11,06 with that genetically 873 01:16:11,07 --> 01:16:17,90 a fool that I have to stay it's just not. The forty billion 874 01:16:17,95 --> 01:16:22,90 a year is here out there on the quantum it's from the state in terms of escrow and 875 01:16:22,91 --> 01:16:27,69 money for repairs to keep this project. There in the in 876 01:16:27,70 --> 01:16:34,69 a. On. The. 877 01:16:35,91 --> 01:16:40,96 Right. Now there's a couple hands raised in 878 01:16:40,97 --> 01:16:45,54 a just moment pressing what what sir just on the procedure and where we're going 879 01:16:45,55 --> 01:16:46,35 out not just you know 880 01:16:46,36 --> 01:16:52,63 a lot of research for him and he said we report the third party and. 881 01:16:53,94 --> 01:17:00,04 Obviously they never get you. To probably be after the holidays spent quite candid 882 01:17:00,05 --> 01:17:06,56 with you I just just honest to schedule something. Will schedule something 883 01:17:06,57 --> 01:17:11,89 probably good the next hearing are we are we getting the peer review is because I 884 01:17:11,90 --> 01:17:15,86 know if we had hired Mr Peshitta we had spoken to him and then speaking with them 885 01:17:16,52 --> 01:17:23,17 our schedules to invitations for his schedule so it's just. Very difficult 886 01:17:24,00 --> 01:17:29,45 for. That hearing will happen and that is what I am. 887 01:17:32,44 --> 01:17:39,44 Really at work here because I think they know him. And. Have the 888 01:17:39,53 --> 01:17:46,12 Hear hear it and then start making nice to see really good because we haven't 889 01:17:46,50 --> 01:17:51,09 heard that the peer reviewed we're going to hear more facts was there sit down and 890 01:17:51,10 --> 01:17:57,08 you start I still live no time to consider those facts. Not correct you were 891 01:17:57,09 --> 01:18:00,88 started in the twenty ninth the period you would have finished in the thirteenth 892 01:18:00,99 --> 01:18:04,57 start your questions then would have another night to finish your questions. So 893 01:18:04,58 --> 01:18:08,22 they'll be two nights to do that because that's that's exactly what I want to avoid 894 01:18:08,23 --> 01:18:12,16 is that correct I don't hate Here's something for the first time and I say we saw 895 01:18:12,17 --> 01:18:17,07 it in five minutes flat and it's thank you to say listen here if you're in 896 01:18:17,08 --> 01:18:24,06 a plane and possibly take but no no no OK you know where to start to cut you 897 01:18:24,07 --> 01:18:28,32 in the twin I finished in the thirteenth starting questions of depending on what 898 01:18:28,33 --> 01:18:31,92 time of night it is and it's ten o'clock at night all due respect we're not 899 01:18:31,93 --> 01:18:38,40 a star watch so. Playing for information would be easier for everyone 900 01:18:38,81 --> 01:18:40,55 if we actually saw a three D. 901 01:18:40,56 --> 01:18:47,55 Model of the whole report playing. This I mean what we're going here 902 01:18:47,56 --> 01:18:52,64 and we see it here but when you actually see the plan and see the three D. 903 01:18:52,65 --> 01:18:59,10 Model in place relative to. How close is this the ferry relative 904 01:18:59,78 --> 01:19:02,86 to how close are these two adjacent neighbors it makes 905 01:19:02,87 --> 01:19:08,82 a lot more sense for people can understand it let me. Look at consumer. 906 01:19:09,85 --> 01:19:15,48 Research since maybe. You will get one. Of. 907 01:19:16,91 --> 01:19:23,48 The of. The. First time we're kind of standing. 908 01:19:25,12 --> 01:19:28,95 Here there's more people here tonight right and this is usually our spot sometimes 909 01:19:28,96 --> 01:19:34,37 we open up we'll see. If that in that room is being used to open up these but we 910 01:19:34,38 --> 01:19:37,97 don't we can't have nice walk to everything that we can't go to the high school 911 01:19:38,25 --> 01:19:44,12 that. So called starter people. Are still. 912 01:19:45,56 --> 01:19:51,98 Still. Sizes of the school. It's OK. 913 01:19:53,11 --> 01:19:56,89 I will pick them consideration. So I'm going to make 914 01:19:57,03 --> 01:20:02,90 a motion that we continue to hear into the twenty second of those in favor by 915 01:20:03,60 --> 01:20:07,45 that's the only no. This could be no public other than the website you know they've 916 01:20:07,46 --> 01:20:13,78 seen in the mail twenty ninth OK. Thank you. Alec for 917 01:20:14,24 --> 01:20:19,82 everything yeah I think it's make it we had to make it and make 918 01:20:19,83 --> 01:20:26,71 a motion to it by Mr second. And I think if either of us. Guys who get 919 01:20:26,72 --> 01:20:27,47 a call that we got 920 01:20:27,48 --> 01:20:33,100 a couple minutes me back OK we have. Seven me minutes 921 01:20:34,58 --> 01:20:39,81 that we have done that I want to ask for approval for one so we have as one of the 922 01:20:39,82 --> 01:20:45,59 records May twelfth January twentieth August twenty fifth remember twenty second 923 01:20:46,39 --> 01:20:53,08 November tenth two thousand and fifteen there were nine and. I mean 924 01:20:53,09 --> 01:20:56,93 November first two thousand and sixteen is on the commotion and we proved all seven 925 01:20:56,94 --> 01:21:03,61 of those set for Scribner's airs to hear second time for us every. Week and 926 01:21:03,87 --> 01:21:10,73 now. Almost what. We got. From Marianne Brogan 927 01:21:10,74 --> 01:21:15,35 this was something we stench of her special permanent I don't know if you guys mean 928 01:21:15,36 --> 01:21:19,91 this I remember her yeah she has this was a and he's not 929 01:21:19,92 --> 01:21:23,71 a very complicated one she's asking for six months extension because we have she 930 01:21:23,72 --> 01:21:28,32 has to do pile drivers strong words up because it's backlog she can't get 931 01:21:28,33 --> 01:21:32,32 a month I don't see an issue with this it's going to expire in February of two 932 01:21:32,33 --> 01:21:35,50 thousand and seventy. From 933 01:21:35,51 --> 01:21:40,14 a commotion in the grant her request for an extension second to last favor I write 934 01:21:40,90 --> 01:21:45,11 I just realized that Marcus I'm here tonight. To see 935 01:21:45,12 --> 01:21:47,71 a man aren't sitting on the forty it's going to get 936 01:21:47,72 --> 01:21:52,52 a listen would you go with you don't want so speaking on the twenty ninth we have 937 01:21:52,53 --> 01:21:57,36 a couple decisions you want to do on the first night as Nancy's first night we meet 938 01:21:57,94 --> 01:22:02,92 a little early because I can't sit on one of them but I was going to actually ask 939 01:22:03,16 --> 01:22:07,43 why do we not meeting. So why do we need to do to well as you know maybe that in 940 01:22:07,44 --> 01:22:11,65 the future but I think on the twenty ninth like to me at seven. Point three on the 941 01:22:11,66 --> 01:22:15,42 twenty ninth those decisions given all the other money was amazing to me an example 942 01:22:15,79 --> 01:22:19,30 for you know that we when I first on the board we started seven and there was 943 01:22:19,48 --> 01:22:24,32 a few guys from Boston and the never make it here. Are struggle and again they 944 01:22:24,55 --> 01:22:31,47 would change it to seven thirty and. That's one so do the system to seven 945 01:22:31,59 --> 01:22:36,10 and seven thirty start to be correct so that we have to sell their business in here 946 01:22:36,11 --> 01:22:40,05 although you have to know which ones were going to be looking for the notice so it 947 01:22:40,06 --> 01:22:46,67 was so yes Andy had taken in C Yeah Nancy the seven surfaces so these are the ones 948 01:22:46,68 --> 01:22:50,09 that we all just seven over here made for you know we can do it we know but I mean 949 01:22:50,10 --> 01:22:54,70 I think the one that I'm often what is this moment yeah CARMODY I can't do it just 950 01:22:54,71 --> 01:22:57,79 to the meeting itself and then we can do whatever we want if you know what we have 951 01:22:57,80 --> 01:23:01,58 felt over your foot if you have to have those this anyway I guess you have to do OK 952 01:23:01,84 --> 01:23:03,02 with their opening or that's 953 01:23:03,03 --> 01:23:06,91 a yes no don't you know sort of thing you see John that you do it yes I understand 954 01:23:06,92 --> 01:23:13,48 it kind of what we can accept and this is the end he can take it off because. What 955 01:23:13,49 --> 01:23:15,96 he said and so I will make you think that's 956 01:23:15,97 --> 01:23:21,14 a comic emotion that. We journey here second second day almost.